Comments on: Six Burning Questions About Flash on the iPhone http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/ Reviews, News, and Opinion About Personal Technology by Harry McCracken & Friends Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:09:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? - iPhone Newswire http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-6626 Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? - iPhone Newswire Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:22:39 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-6626 [...] of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been no focused [...] [...] of people have noted this reasoning:  like this person and that person and this person and that person. I just didn’t pay enough attention. As I noted above though, there has been no focused [...]

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]]> By: Adam Cleaver http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2613 Adam Cleaver Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:48:06 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-2613 This is great news for anyone wanting to deliver brand experiences on mobile phones – it’s just a shame we still don’t know when it will happen. The powerful combination of the iPhone interface with the rich interactivity of Flash is something agencies, marketers and consumers will find hard to resist. Interestingly, we can also envisage a potential cost saving for clients as pre-existing Flash content is repurposed for mobile. At present, it looks like there is only talk about the Flash plug-in on the Safari web browser. As such, Flash widgets per se are not really on the cards yet. Native iPhone widgets/applications in Flash are still a good while away, but we wait with anticipation for the opportunity to use this new technology. This is great news for anyone wanting to deliver brand experiences on mobile phones – it’s just a shame we still don’t know when it will happen. The powerful combination of the iPhone interface with the rich interactivity of Flash is something agencies, marketers and consumers will find hard to resist. Interestingly, we can also envisage a potential cost saving for clients as pre-existing Flash content is repurposed for mobile.

At present, it looks like there is only talk about the Flash plug-in on the Safari web browser. As such, Flash widgets per se are not really on the cards yet. Native iPhone widgets/applications in Flash are still a good while away, but we wait with anticipation for the opportunity to use this new technology.

]]> By: zahadum http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2603 zahadum Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:11:38 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-2603 no, No, NO!!! apple should NEVER support flash on the iphone/itouch. flash represents the ANTITHESIS of the web ethos - it is closed, proprietrary, and GROSSLY buggy platform! flash can not be intrinsically indexed or searched on the web because it is not 'real' (W3C) web content - and apple is wise to stress the standards-compliant approach of safari (and it is a bonus that wekbit is opensource as well; it is a double bonus that webkit is now the de facto standard web platform for mobiles!) flash is a threat to the integrity of the open web. apple should protect iphone users from ever having to put up with this shiite (flash is slow, buggy - and uses an out-dated video codec). stop Flash pollution now! what apple should really do - about flash - is buy adobe (for this and many other reasons): then the interactivity of flash could be rolled back into the quicktime environment (and then rebuild quicktime player so that it is a joy to use, not a pain in the ass!). no, No, NO!!!

apple should NEVER support flash on the iphone/itouch.

flash represents the ANTITHESIS of the web ethos – it is closed, proprietrary, and GROSSLY buggy platform!

flash can not be intrinsically indexed or searched on the web because it is not ‘real’ (W3C) web content – and apple is wise to stress the standards-compliant approach of safari (and it is a bonus that wekbit is opensource as well; it is a double bonus that webkit is now the de facto
standard web platform for mobiles!)

flash is a threat to the integrity of the open web.

apple should protect iphone users from ever having to put up with this shiite (flash is slow, buggy – and uses an out-dated video codec).

stop Flash pollution now!

what apple should really do – about flash – is buy adobe (for this and many other reasons): then the interactivity of flash could be rolled back into the quicktime environment (and then rebuild quicktime player so that it is a joy to use, not a pain in the ass!).

]]> By: James Katt http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2587 James Katt Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:52:11 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-2587 I would love to laugh at Flash on the Android G1 - which runs at 300 MHz - half-the speed of the iPhone 3G. I would laugh if it wasn't the full, comprehensive, Flash as well. No way should Apple approve Flash on the iPhone 3G that is NOT EQUAL to the features of the desktop version of Flash. If anything, Adobe should give Flash away to Apple - source code and all. This way, Apple wouldn't be dependent on Adobe. Adobe has a history of crippling it's Apple versions of its products compared to the PC version. It is also often late in producing an Apple version of its products. Let Android be the guinea pig. Remember, that the iPhone only has about 100 megabytes of RAM for all the applications together.. This is very tiny compared to the needs of a full featured Flash. I would love to laugh at Flash on the Android G1 – which runs at 300 MHz – half-the speed of the iPhone 3G.

I would laugh if it wasn’t the full, comprehensive, Flash as well. No way should Apple approve Flash on the iPhone 3G that is NOT EQUAL to the features of the desktop version of Flash.

If anything, Adobe should give Flash away to Apple – source code and all. This way, Apple wouldn’t be dependent on Adobe.

Adobe has a history of crippling it’s Apple versions of its products compared to the PC version. It is also often late in producing an Apple version of its products.

Let Android be the guinea pig.

Remember, that the iPhone only has about 100 megabytes of RAM for all the applications together.. This is very tiny compared to the needs of a full featured Flash.

]]> By: Daniel http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2585 Daniel Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:23:14 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-2585 I think that there should be an option for people to disable Flash on webpages so the critics/cynics don't whine and complain as usual...also, there should be an option that disables Flash objects<i> until</i> the user clicks on a box which says, "Click to play Flash object." That would let people skip the darn annoying banner ads, which eliminates the issue of wasted bandwidth and RAM for stupid ads. I think that there should be an option for people to disable Flash on webpages so the critics/cynics don’t whine and complain as usual…also, there should be an option that disables Flash objects until the user clicks on a box which says, “Click to play Flash object.” That would let people skip the darn annoying banner ads, which eliminates the issue of wasted bandwidth and RAM for stupid ads.

]]> By: bud http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/six-burning-questions-about-flash-on-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2584 bud Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:22:31 +0000 http://technologizer.wordpress.com/?p=2525#comment-2584 Apple should make Quicktime available for Android at least. I don't think Flash ever should have become a Video Media wrapper. Animated Vector Graphics, sure. Too bad it became the default conduit for video. Oh the good side, the absence of Flash on the iPhone means less annoying bandwidth hogging never requested ads. Android could be more of a threat to the iPhone, if it was not a T-Mobile exclusive. Will Sprint and Verizon adopt Android handsets, or is it giving up too much control? Oddly, I think Google wants to promote more open standards as well, which might also keep Flash from being on Android. Because Flash is nearly ubiquitous, does not mean it is not proprietary. Apple should make Quicktime available for Android at least.

I don’t think Flash ever should have become a Video Media wrapper. Animated Vector Graphics, sure. Too bad it became the default conduit for video.

Oh the good side, the absence of Flash on the iPhone means less annoying bandwidth hogging never requested ads.

Android could be more of a threat to the iPhone, if it was not a T-Mobile exclusive. Will Sprint and Verizon adopt Android handsets, or is it giving up too much control?

Oddly, I think Google wants to promote more open standards as well, which might also keep Flash from being on Android. Because Flash is nearly ubiquitous, does not mean it is not proprietary.

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