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		<title>By: rooseveltfranklin</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2009/01/23/zunes-swoon-doom-soon/comment-page-2/#comment-25852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rooseveltfranklin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New Zoon Review.... if i may borrow a few lines from previous posters;
Dead man walking! The new edsel.... i like that one best;-)
the &quot;new&quot; device is a day late and a dollar short. 

welcome to heaven here is your IPod touch
welcome to h3ll here is your zune HD.. or is it zoon???
BTW, i know this is a little off topic but.... whats a zune??

see ya real zoon at the apple store!!! hahahahahahha;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Zoon Review&#8230;. if i may borrow a few lines from previous posters;<br />
Dead man walking! The new edsel&#8230;. i like that one best;-)<br />
the &#8220;new&#8221; device is a day late and a dollar short. </p>
<p>welcome to heaven here is your IPod touch<br />
welcome to h3ll here is your zune HD.. or is it zoon???<br />
BTW, i know this is a little off topic but&#8230;. whats a zune??</p>
<p>see ya real zoon at the apple store!!! hahahahahahha;-)</p>
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		<title>By: coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coffee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revenue for the Zune might be down because of the recession, or it could be because people are afraid it will freeze up again next New Year&#039;s Eve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revenue for the Zune might be down because of the recession, or it could be because people are afraid it will freeze up again next New Year&#8217;s Eve</p>
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		<title>By: Harry McCracken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry McCracken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do know some Zune owners who really like their devices and the Zune service. But the Zune name seems kind of tarnished; as far as I can tell, it has a reputation for lameness rather than hipness, and the December 31st bug surely didn&#039;t help things.

The world&#039;s perception, at least, is that Zune is about some dedicated portable music players. Such devices are clearly eventually going to be part of the past of entertainment. Apple has done a good job of broadening iPod beyond its origins by introducing new types of iPods (the Touch), emphasizing video, putting as much energy into the iTunes Store as into the hardware, etc. Microsoft has done less of this to date, and if Zune is worth saving, it may be because it hopes to do more of this in the future.

But I still think it&#039;s worth considering retiring the Zune name and making Xbox the umbrella brand for a broader range of Microsoft entertainment-related hardware, software, and services.

--Harry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know some Zune owners who really like their devices and the Zune service. But the Zune name seems kind of tarnished; as far as I can tell, it has a reputation for lameness rather than hipness, and the December 31st bug surely didn&#8217;t help things.</p>
<p>The world&#8217;s perception, at least, is that Zune is about some dedicated portable music players. Such devices are clearly eventually going to be part of the past of entertainment. Apple has done a good job of broadening iPod beyond its origins by introducing new types of iPods (the Touch), emphasizing video, putting as much energy into the iTunes Store as into the hardware, etc. Microsoft has done less of this to date, and if Zune is worth saving, it may be because it hopes to do more of this in the future.</p>
<p>But I still think it&#8217;s worth considering retiring the Zune name and making Xbox the umbrella brand for a broader range of Microsoft entertainment-related hardware, software, and services.</p>
<p>&#8211;Harry</p>
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		<title>By: SkateNY</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2009/01/23/zunes-swoon-doom-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-8318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkateNY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t doubt that many or even most Zune owner are satisfied with what they have. Here&#039;s my thing: Apple dove into the MP3 market when that market was already well on its way to maturity. The iPod quickly made a big splash, and iTunes has played no small part in helping the iPod acuire a 70% market share. Apple did not engage in illegal, monopolistic business practices in order to achieve that level prominence; nor did Steve Jobs hypnotize buyers in steering them towards the iPhone.

When the iPhone was released in October of 2001, it succeeded during a recession caused by the terrorist attacks of 9/11. If the current economic climate adversely affected the Zune and other consumer products, then it stands to reason that it also adversely affected iPod sales. Yet, Apple reported a growth in iPod sales for the most recent quarter, versus a 54% drop in Zune revenues.

I believe that Microsoft and its investors need re-evaluate the Zune with regard to how it affects other products, and how it affects shareholder interests. If I&#039;m a Microsoft competitor -- and I don&#039;t believe that Apple and Microsoft compete in the sense that they appeal to very different groups of customers -- I truly hope that Microsoft continues to throw money and other resources at the Zune.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that many or even most Zune owner are satisfied with what they have. Here&#8217;s my thing: Apple dove into the MP3 market when that market was already well on its way to maturity. The iPod quickly made a big splash, and iTunes has played no small part in helping the iPod acuire a 70% market share. Apple did not engage in illegal, monopolistic business practices in order to achieve that level prominence; nor did Steve Jobs hypnotize buyers in steering them towards the iPhone.</p>
<p>When the iPhone was released in October of 2001, it succeeded during a recession caused by the terrorist attacks of 9/11. If the current economic climate adversely affected the Zune and other consumer products, then it stands to reason that it also adversely affected iPod sales. Yet, Apple reported a growth in iPod sales for the most recent quarter, versus a 54% drop in Zune revenues.</p>
<p>I believe that Microsoft and its investors need re-evaluate the Zune with regard to how it affects other products, and how it affects shareholder interests. If I&#8217;m a Microsoft competitor &#8212; and I don&#8217;t believe that Apple and Microsoft compete in the sense that they appeal to very different groups of customers &#8212; I truly hope that Microsoft continues to throw money and other resources at the Zune.</p>
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		<title>By: SkateNY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkateNY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Marty: Microsoft says that its Zune-related revenue “decreased by $100 or 54% reflecting a decrease in device sales.”

If losing 54% of revenues is a &quot;great year,&quot; then what would be reprentative of a bad year? Owing money to Zune owners?

If someone is wrong, my money is on Mr. Bach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marty: Microsoft says that its Zune-related revenue “decreased by $100 or 54% reflecting a decrease in device sales.”</p>
<p>If losing 54% of revenues is a &#8220;great year,&#8221; then what would be reprentative of a bad year? Owing money to Zune owners?</p>
<p>If someone is wrong, my money is on Mr. Bach.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry,
Your story about the Zune weakness seems odd. At CES, Robbie Bach said the Zune &quot;had a great year.&quot;
So ... one of you is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,<br />
Your story about the Zune weakness seems odd. At CES, Robbie Bach said the Zune &#8220;had a great year.&#8221;<br />
So &#8230; one of you is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: SkateNY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SkateNY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better to pull out sooner than lose a whole lot more later. And I’m not just talking about revenues; I’m talking about reputation.

Compared to the iPhone and the iPod touch, the Zune sucks, and everyone knows it. I don’t care how many testimonials I read from so-called Zune owners. The fact that the Zune owns aroud 3-4% of the market versus 70% market share for the iPod should be enough suggestive evidence to quiet the squawkers. But it isn’t. So be it.

The Zune is so late to the game that Microsoft’s own music download store is hobbled by DRM restrictions, something Apple has recently persuaded the record companies to drop. This is the same DRM that every Kool-Aid drinking, anti-Apple freak complained about. 

So, my question to all you misguided Microsoft miscreants is this: How do you justify Microsoft’s DRM-straddled music store?

Please. Don’t even answer. I’m so tired of Microsoft apologists, continually posting love letters about failed products. “I love Vista! It’s the best OS I’ve ever used!” Yeah. That worked out well. Even the CEO/Chief Priest of the Church at which you worship told you it was a failure, and you continued to kneel down in submission. You people should be living in the Middle East, where unfounded beliefs are taken as fact, and misguided behavior is taken as the norm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better to pull out sooner than lose a whole lot more later. And I’m not just talking about revenues; I’m talking about reputation.</p>
<p>Compared to the iPhone and the iPod touch, the Zune sucks, and everyone knows it. I don’t care how many testimonials I read from so-called Zune owners. The fact that the Zune owns aroud 3-4% of the market versus 70% market share for the iPod should be enough suggestive evidence to quiet the squawkers. But it isn’t. So be it.</p>
<p>The Zune is so late to the game that Microsoft’s own music download store is hobbled by DRM restrictions, something Apple has recently persuaded the record companies to drop. This is the same DRM that every Kool-Aid drinking, anti-Apple freak complained about. </p>
<p>So, my question to all you misguided Microsoft miscreants is this: How do you justify Microsoft’s DRM-straddled music store?</p>
<p>Please. Don’t even answer. I’m so tired of Microsoft apologists, continually posting love letters about failed products. “I love Vista! It’s the best OS I’ve ever used!” Yeah. That worked out well. Even the CEO/Chief Priest of the Church at which you worship told you it was a failure, and you continued to kneel down in submission. You people should be living in the Middle East, where unfounded beliefs are taken as fact, and misguided behavior is taken as the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see what you are saying.  I&#039;m dense today.  I don&#039;t think they will although it might be interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you are saying.  I&#8217;m dense today.  I don&#8217;t think they will although it might be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfiejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alfiejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sure, let&#039;s call it the ZBox.

but it&#039;s far too late. Dead Man Walking. the Edsel (or Newton) of this decade. Adios!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure, let&#8217;s call it the ZBox.</p>
<p>but it&#8217;s far too late. Dead Man Walking. the Edsel (or Newton) of this decade. Adios!</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jared Newman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let the Xbox Portable Media Player Handheld Games Device Robot Phone speculation begin! Tasty.

In all seriousness, though, here&#039;s an article of interest:
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/microsoft-may-finally-nuke-the-zune

Suggests that MS won&#039;t be looking to launch any more mobile devices if/when the Zune dies, and would rather focus on software, according to Ballmer.

Might be wise as far as gaming handhelds are concerned -- who would want to battle the DS right now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the Xbox Portable Media Player Handheld Games Device Robot Phone speculation begin! Tasty.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, though, here&#8217;s an article of interest:<br />
<a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/microsoft-may-finally-nuke-the-zune" rel="nofollow">http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/microsoft-may-finally-nuke-the-zune</a></p>
<p>Suggests that MS won&#8217;t be looking to launch any more mobile devices if/when the Zune dies, and would rather focus on software, according to Ballmer.</p>
<p>Might be wise as far as gaming handhelds are concerned &#8212; who would want to battle the DS right now?</p>
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