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		<title>By: More used book stores fail in Seattle &#187; Selling Books On Amazon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More used book stores fail in Seattle &#187; Selling Books On Amazon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tced</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One further observation of the extreme competitiveness of consumer electronics.  Remember when the computer companies (Gateway, Dell, HP) all started selling TVs?  How many of them are still in the business now?  This is just an indicator of how cutthroat the competition is in consumer electronics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One further observation of the extreme competitiveness of consumer electronics.  Remember when the computer companies (Gateway, Dell, HP) all started selling TVs?  How many of them are still in the business now?  This is just an indicator of how cutthroat the competition is in consumer electronics.</p>
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		<title>By: tced</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much of the consumer electronics industry suffers from &quot;destructive competition&quot;.  Prices are forced so low that few can survive.

I worked for years for a domestic consumer electronics company.  In the 80&#039;s I shopped for televisions in the Akihabra district of Tokyo.  Television were $500 more in Tokyo than Chicago.  We were forced to &quot;compete&quot; with an unrealistic price.

Some years later, I worked on the development of the first digital satellite system.  The receivers originally cost about $600 and are now about $50.  No money is made at these prices.

Circuit City is just another part of the consumer electronics food chain.  Many customers just want electronics cheap, cheap, cheap.  They were complaining that the prices weren&#039;t low enough at the liquidation sale.  The current price structure does not support development and marketing of consumer electronics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the consumer electronics industry suffers from &#8220;destructive competition&#8221;.  Prices are forced so low that few can survive.</p>
<p>I worked for years for a domestic consumer electronics company.  In the 80&#8242;s I shopped for televisions in the Akihabra district of Tokyo.  Television were $500 more in Tokyo than Chicago.  We were forced to &#8220;compete&#8221; with an unrealistic price.</p>
<p>Some years later, I worked on the development of the first digital satellite system.  The receivers originally cost about $600 and are now about $50.  No money is made at these prices.</p>
<p>Circuit City is just another part of the consumer electronics food chain.  Many customers just want electronics cheap, cheap, cheap.  They were complaining that the prices weren&#8217;t low enough at the liquidation sale.  The current price structure does not support development and marketing of consumer electronics.</p>
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		<title>By: sloane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sloane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Tantillo has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; marketing blog&lt;/a&gt; and typically does weekly winner/loser posts. Microsoft has been the &#039;loser&#039; multiple times, but last week, with the announcement that Microsoft would be opening retail stores and that David Portner would be heading up the effort, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2009/02/14/brand-winners-and-losers-microsoft-and-peanut-corp.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he named Microsoft the winner...&lt;/a&gt; for at least realizing that they need to make some changes...

Your suggestions are good and should be fairly obvious to retailers...but implementation will be another story. And for Microsoft, almost everything will be a case I guess of cross-merchandising--building closer ties with certain PC manufacturers and highlighting the best PCs that use their products could be a good move. But it also makes the whole plan that much more complicated with that many more opportunities for things to go wrong (and more hoops to jump through, and more people to sign off on details of each plan...) 

Tantillo also had a post a while back about how the electronics market had ignored women for a long time (esp. big retail stores like Best Buy) and had just recently started to make up for lost time. In both cases, it&#039;s a question of actually paying attention to who your consumers are and what they want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Tantillo has a <a href="http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv" rel="nofollow"> marketing blog</a> and typically does weekly winner/loser posts. Microsoft has been the &#8216;loser&#8217; multiple times, but last week, with the announcement that Microsoft would be opening retail stores and that David Portner would be heading up the effort, <a href="http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2009/02/14/brand-winners-and-losers-microsoft-and-peanut-corp.aspx" rel="nofollow">he named Microsoft the winner&#8230;</a> for at least realizing that they need to make some changes&#8230;</p>
<p>Your suggestions are good and should be fairly obvious to retailers&#8230;but implementation will be another story. And for Microsoft, almost everything will be a case I guess of cross-merchandising&#8211;building closer ties with certain PC manufacturers and highlighting the best PCs that use their products could be a good move. But it also makes the whole plan that much more complicated with that many more opportunities for things to go wrong (and more hoops to jump through, and more people to sign off on details of each plan&#8230;) </p>
<p>Tantillo also had a post a while back about how the electronics market had ignored women for a long time (esp. big retail stores like Best Buy) and had just recently started to make up for lost time. In both cases, it&#8217;s a question of actually paying attention to who your consumers are and what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Barnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry,

There are two kinds of people who run/control retail stores.
Merchandisers and Accountants.
All of the items you wrote about are the focus of a merchandising attitude.
Accountants focus on cost control and could care less about the products and services.

Guess who is in control?

,dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p>There are two kinds of people who run/control retail stores.<br />
Merchandisers and Accountants.<br />
All of the items you wrote about are the focus of a merchandising attitude.<br />
Accountants focus on cost control and could care less about the products and services.</p>
<p>Guess who is in control?</p>
<p>,dave</p>
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		<title>By: sfmitch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sfmitch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Basically it all comes down to margin.  Retailers can&#039;t make enough money to do all the great things you suggest.  

&quot;I’m happy to pay a bit more&quot; =  You are willing to pay a bit more than the lowest price you can find on the web which amounts to little or no profit margin.  

People aren&#039;t willing to pay for a higher quality retail shopping experience.  Many folks have no problem doing their research in the retail store and then ordering online to get the best price.  

Best Buy has been doing the best job in the sector and surprise, surprise, they are still around.

Apple&#039;s products almost always sell at MSRP so the incentive to order online to get a cheaper price goes away - they are supporting retail like many high end brands do (e.g. Bose,)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically it all comes down to margin.  Retailers can&#8217;t make enough money to do all the great things you suggest.  </p>
<p>&#8220;I’m happy to pay a bit more&#8221; =  You are willing to pay a bit more than the lowest price you can find on the web which amounts to little or no profit margin.  </p>
<p>People aren&#8217;t willing to pay for a higher quality retail shopping experience.  Many folks have no problem doing their research in the retail store and then ordering online to get the best price.  </p>
<p>Best Buy has been doing the best job in the sector and surprise, surprise, they are still around.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s products almost always sell at MSRP so the incentive to order online to get a cheaper price goes away &#8211; they are supporting retail like many high end brands do (e.g. Bose,)</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We needed to buy a new monitor when we were still living in W. Springfield and went to the local Circuit City.  The sales person we finally found told us &quot;Good luck with that!&quot;  I don&#039;t think that we were in there again except for a pickup of something we&#039;d gotten online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We needed to buy a new monitor when we were still living in W. Springfield and went to the local Circuit City.  The sales person we finally found told us &#8220;Good luck with that!&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think that we were in there again except for a pickup of something we&#8217;d gotten online.</p>
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		<title>By: Spot Cool Tech</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spot Cool Tech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The interesting thing is that there are several retailers doing it right in other areas. Trader Joe&#039;s, for example, hits all the items on your wish list in food retailing. Maybe they should start selling laptops too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is that there are several retailers doing it right in other areas. Trader Joe&#8217;s, for example, hits all the items on your wish list in food retailing. Maybe they should start selling laptops too.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you just described apple stores
- Better stuff. 
that means higher prices (and higher margins for the reseller). - Windows has been marketed to consumers mainly as the OS driving the el-cheapo laptops / desktops. - How can anyone sell computers with windows with this background in the scenario you desire.

- Newer stuff.
that´s the thing. - although the retailers don´t invest much money in displaying stuff, they still need quite some margin, and old stuff is one way to go

- Better-displayed stuff. 
- More accessible stuff.
those two belong together. - It´s basically about the money, and to them it appears cheaper to lock down everything to prevent it from vandalism / theft. - It still looks crappy, though. - Somewhere comes the &quot;broken window theory&quot; into play (basically saying that if you dont repair broken windows / abandoned houses in a neighbourhood right away, the downward spiral of said neighbourhood accelerates; as ppl are less inclined to &quot;behave&quot;). 
Therefore, I´d say that &quot;casual&quot; thieves, or careless persons, are less likely to rob/vandalize in an apple store, as it´s so well kept w/ upscale appearance and many sales persons on the floor. (therefore, actually, the applestore probably has significantly higher personnel costs, but less damaged / &quot;lost&quot; products costs - I´d love to see how these to add up in bestbuy vs apple)

- Better-priced stuff. 
no. Apple sells at full retail price, and only when informed shoppers present a comparable written quote, they get a lower price. - And lots of ppl simply dont care enough (that´s the beauty of selling to the affluent ;)

- A little sense of fun. 
typical services at apple stores
Personal Shopping
Workshops
Genius Bar
Youth Programs
and occasional concerts 

--
I think it´s almost impossible to pull this off if you also plan to sell computers that run windows. Not selling computers makes it difficult to show off sync features of digital cameras, MP3 and the like.
Introducing a new OS (linux or unix based) could theoretically be pulled of by e.g. HP (which has most if not all of the typical accesories) and thencould start such a kind of stores with a similar user experience as Apple already has. - But I doubt that´ll ever happen

rgrds
matt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just described apple stores<br />
- Better stuff.<br />
that means higher prices (and higher margins for the reseller). &#8211; Windows has been marketed to consumers mainly as the OS driving the el-cheapo laptops / desktops. &#8211; How can anyone sell computers with windows with this background in the scenario you desire.</p>
<p>- Newer stuff.<br />
that´s the thing. &#8211; although the retailers don´t invest much money in displaying stuff, they still need quite some margin, and old stuff is one way to go</p>
<p>- Better-displayed stuff.<br />
- More accessible stuff.<br />
those two belong together. &#8211; It´s basically about the money, and to them it appears cheaper to lock down everything to prevent it from vandalism / theft. &#8211; It still looks crappy, though. &#8211; Somewhere comes the &#8220;broken window theory&#8221; into play (basically saying that if you dont repair broken windows / abandoned houses in a neighbourhood right away, the downward spiral of said neighbourhood accelerates; as ppl are less inclined to &#8220;behave&#8221;).<br />
Therefore, I´d say that &#8220;casual&#8221; thieves, or careless persons, are less likely to rob/vandalize in an apple store, as it´s so well kept w/ upscale appearance and many sales persons on the floor. (therefore, actually, the applestore probably has significantly higher personnel costs, but less damaged / &#8220;lost&#8221; products costs &#8211; I´d love to see how these to add up in bestbuy vs apple)</p>
<p>- Better-priced stuff.<br />
no. Apple sells at full retail price, and only when informed shoppers present a comparable written quote, they get a lower price. &#8211; And lots of ppl simply dont care enough (that´s the beauty of selling to the affluent ;)</p>
<p>- A little sense of fun.<br />
typical services at apple stores<br />
Personal Shopping<br />
Workshops<br />
Genius Bar<br />
Youth Programs<br />
and occasional concerts </p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
I think it´s almost impossible to pull this off if you also plan to sell computers that run windows. Not selling computers makes it difficult to show off sync features of digital cameras, MP3 and the like.<br />
Introducing a new OS (linux or unix based) could theoretically be pulled of by e.g. HP (which has most if not all of the typical accesories) and thencould start such a kind of stores with a similar user experience as Apple already has. &#8211; But I doubt that´ll ever happen</p>
<p>rgrds<br />
matt</p>
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