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By: dustmonkey

dustmonkey — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:09 +0000

Has anybody actually read the developer distribution agreement?

http://www.android.com/us/developer-distribution-agreement.html

I am developing a touch screen keyboard for Android and this section worries me.

“5.1 You grant to Google a nonexclusive, worldwide, and royalty-free license to: copy, perform, display, and use the Products for administrative and demonstration purposes in connection with the operation and marketing of the Market and to use the Products to make improvements to the Android platform.”

The last sentence, “and to use the products to make improvements to the Android platform,” seems to mean that if Google like my Keyboard idea, they can include it in Android and not have to pay.

Can someone from Google/Android clear this up for me?

By: Harry McCracken

Harry McCracken — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:13:37 +0000

@frank: I do say that it’s possible that it’s not going to block the Pre. But you’re right–the headline probably should have had a question mark at the end…

–Harry

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:05:37 +0000

I thought technologizer was better then these panic posts… Apple just said “Oi, euhm, all good and well, but don’t expect support from us” which is perfectly understandable. This does not necessarily mean “We are going to actively block you from doing this!!1111″

By: Tim G.

Tim G. — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:07:40 +0000

The problem with this is that Apple doesn’t make their money on iTunes media sales. They make barely enough to cover the infrastructure needed to keep the system up and employees paid. This was a sticking point with the media companies who didn’t want Apple making a profit on media that wasn’t created or owned by them. Apple makes their money on iPod & iPhone sales and Palm’s ballsy move potentially cuts into their market share.

It’s like a movie theater, they don’t make any money on the movie tickets, it’s the concessions where they make their profit. This is why yelling at theaters for their $15 tickets makes no sense, they’re just passing on the cost of renting the print from the distributor over to the consumer. If people are angry, they should be angry at Hollywood for paying celebrities $20+ million dollar contracts.

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:07:12 +0000

@Bob (and others): DMCA allows for ‘interoperability’ and ‘compatibility’ as a way to circumvent certain digital restrictions.

Apple’s right on the money, and so is Palm; Apple says they can’t guarantee it will always work, and Palm hasn’t said that it always will. Therefore, no one takes responsibility of any system working with another. Wasn’t this the point of ‘open standards’?

If this is the future of a digital world — where my purchased, legal media works only with the hardware that’s exclusively paired to my software-retailer of choice — that’s a poor place for us to end up.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:22:41 +0000

eba:
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Do some research into how the Palm Pre hack works. It’s clear that no firmware update on the iPod will be required for Apple to break it.

By: MrClock

MrClock — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:39:05 +0000

The iTunes sync capability in the Palm Pre is provided by a software solution that emulates the USB signaling of an iPod. Were Apple to change the signal, Palm could do the same in a similar update. In other words, no Apple update could stop Palm’s sync capacity (or anyone else’s) with iTunes, just force an update from the other side.

So I doubt this means Apple will start forcing the issue, they are just drawing a line in the sand to their iTunes users by telling them they only support Apple products in use with Apple software, i.e. it’s a monoculture.

By: eba

eba — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:13:42 +0000

All I can say is: “Break it” Apple. Palm Pre is wirelessly updated so it can be fixed in minutes… how are you going to update all your old iPods? I would laugh until I stopped.

First Apple ensured that it had thousands of monochromatic lemmings (just like in its 1984 ad). Now it will try to dictate, and use FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) to control everyone. Bravo, “anti-IBM” … you seem just like them.