Comments on: Flash on Phones? Is That a Promise or a Threat?

By: Flash: What Happened?

Flash: What Happened? — Fri, 14 May 2010 01:07:10 +0000

[...] feelings about it. (Back in October, almost half of Technologizer readers who participated in my wholly unscientific poll thought Flash on smartphones sounded “downright irritating”–and only eight [...]

By: The Future of Flash

The Future of Flash — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:28:45 +0000

[...] way or another, all this will work itself out. Adobe has ambitious plans to put Flash on a bevy of mobile platforms. The squabbling over implementation of HTML5 can’t go on forever, unless the goal is to [...]

By: Lawrence Velazquez

Lawrence Velazquez — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:12:00 +0000

JavaScript is a Web standard that is implemented by the browser. Flash and Silverlight require proprietary plugins that leave the performance of the web browser at the mercy of their third-party authors. And Adobe and Microsoft are not third parties I’d like affecting my browsing experience.

Who are these people who are clamoring for Flash on the iPhone, besides tech nuts?

By: Matt Davis

Matt Davis — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:46:24 +0000

I’d agree that Flash is a threat to Apple in the realms of web video, but that battle’s come and gone. Flash Video is here, and we want that on the iPhone – it’s H.264, but flashified.

I’m no Flash apologist – QuickTime is a far better technology for web video and handles choppy and contested bandwidth visibly better. But Apple insisted new installs came with iTunes or other gubbins and the PC users – especially corporates – passed on it. And they continue to do so. So we’re stuck with Flash. Maybe we can make this work, but Apple’s attitude (once again) isn’t helping.

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:53:19 +0000

Where does this fit into things?
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/

Quote “Flash Professional CS5 will enable you to build applications for iPhone and iPod touch using ActionScript 3. These applications can be delivered to iPhone and iPod touch users through the Apple App Store.”

I guess this is just compiling actionscript code to native iPhone apps?

By: Adobe revela Flash Player 10.1 para desktops e diversos smartphones, mas nada do iPhone (é claro) | MacMagazine

Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:46:44 +0000

[...] parte, já discutido bastante por aqui. Além disso, quem for trabalhar com Flash no mundo móvel deverá pensar com mais dedicação nas limitações que ainda existirão, criando conteúdo que agregue valor, em vez de repelir [...]

By: It’s Flash on the iPhone (Well, Sort of) | Technologizer

It’s Flash on the iPhone (Well, Sort of) | Technologizer — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:34:59 +0000

[...] all: News The iPhone may be the only major smartphone in the known universe that’s unlikely to get Adobe’s Flash Player anytime soon, but there is a bit of iPhone/Flash news today. At Adobe’s MAX conference in Los Angeles, the [...]

By: Harry McCracken

Harry McCracken — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:13:55 +0000

@Tom: I think that on some levels, it’s a bad sign when consumers have opinions about Flash–con OR pro. Nobody likes or dislikes, say, C++. We think about Flash in part because the things built with it are often disruptive (and because of the hassles that the Flash Player sometimes involves).

Won’t it be a sign that Flash is doing its job perfectly when it creates pleasing experiences on the Web but nobody knows it’s there?

–Harry

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:09:04 +0000

Not if Apple implement it well. Javascript can be just as annoying, see example:

while(true)
{
alert(‘I want to annoy you’);
}

But on balance we put up with it’s potential to be annoying because it greatly enhances web sites. Flash and Silverlight do the same.

If Apple implement it as I have suggested – by that, I mean show a placeholder, and REQUIRE user interaction before any flash get loaded (and before any flash cookies get set etc) then I can’t see the problem. This is how embedded YouTube videos work now, and it’s great. What are the downsides if it’s opt-in?
No Flash the only thing I don’t like about Safari for the iPhone right now, it’s a shame Apple puts politics before its customers.

By: Kevin Blakeley

Kevin Blakeley — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:53:05 +0000

Keep flash off my phone please. Its one more way for ads and other crap to work their way in. More and more web sites are making mobile versions of their site that do not include flash and the sites were great and are snappy. You add flash in there and it just slows everything down.