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		<title>By: Muay Thai</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-107924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muay Thai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, people fail to realize that it was pretty common back then. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2012/01/03/muay-thai-combinations.aspxtitle=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Muay Thai Combinations&lt;/a&gt; &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2011/11/24/Muay-Thai-Kick.aspx/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Muay Thai Kick&lt;/a&gt; &#124; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2011/12/24/martial-arts-for-children.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Martial Arts for Children&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, people fail to realize that it was pretty common back then. <a href="http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2012/01/03/muay-thai-combinations.aspxtitle=" rel="nofollow">Muay Thai Combinations</a> | <a href="http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2011/11/24/Muay-Thai-Kick.aspx/" rel="nofollow">Muay Thai Kick</a> | <a href="http://www.easymuaythai.com/post/2011/12/24/martial-arts-for-children.aspx" rel="nofollow">Martial Arts for Children</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robson Cozendey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robson Cozendey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really have fond memories of Windows 3.1. 
 
Thanks to Mr.Trower and Mr.Dill. I&#039;d like to shake hands to everyone that actually developed Windows, not just the big stars like Gates and Ballmer. 
 
For those telling that Windows was just good at version 3.0. 
 
Look at a Windows 1.0 program written in C: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/Windows1/CAKE.C&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/Windows1/CAKE.C&lt;/a&gt; 
 
It is almost identical to a Windows 7 Win32 program written even today. They laid the back bones, for the flashes and lights come later. 
 
Mr.Dill and Mr.Trower, 
 
Do you remember whose was the people that came with the idea of a queued message strategy (in the example above, the GetMessage() function), and a non-queued message approach (in the example above, the WndProc() function) coupled, as the main paradigm of programming for WIndows? 
 
It seems a vital decision in Windows internal programming, from the developer perspective, and I was always curious about that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have fond memories of Windows 3.1. </p>
<p>Thanks to Mr.Trower and Mr.Dill. I&#039;d like to shake hands to everyone that actually developed Windows, not just the big stars like Gates and Ballmer. </p>
<p>For those telling that Windows was just good at version 3.0. </p>
<p>Look at a Windows 1.0 program written in C:<br />
  <a href="http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/Windows1/CAKE.C" rel="nofollow">http://www.charlespetzold.com/etc/Windows1/CAKE.C</a> </p>
<p>It is almost identical to a Windows 7 Win32 program written even today. They laid the back bones, for the flashes and lights come later. </p>
<p>Mr.Dill and Mr.Trower, </p>
<p>Do you remember whose was the people that came with the idea of a queued message strategy (in the example above, the GetMessage() function), and a non-queued message approach (in the example above, the WndProc() function) coupled, as the main paradigm of programming for WIndows? </p>
<p>It seems a vital decision in Windows internal programming, from the developer perspective, and I was always curious about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg E.</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-12/#comment-98673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve fiddled around a bit with Windows 2.0 and one very striking difference from later versions are the dialog buttons with rounded corners and the solid inner outline for the default button. IIRC, that default cannot be moved. In other words those buttons are a direct copy from how Macintosh has always (and still does) their buttons. (But did Apple copy the buttons from Xerox?) 
 
Windows 3.0 went to all square corners everywhere but gained the ability to use Tab to move the default selection (which changed to a dotted outline) for use with Enter. 
 
The computing world would be far different had Xerox had people with the forward looking vision of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve fiddled around a bit with Windows 2.0 and one very striking difference from later versions are the dialog buttons with rounded corners and the solid inner outline for the default button. IIRC, that default cannot be moved. In other words those buttons are a direct copy from how Macintosh has always (and still does) their buttons. (But did Apple copy the buttons from Xerox?) </p>
<p>Windows 3.0 went to all square corners everywhere but gained the ability to use Tab to move the default selection (which changed to a dotted outline) for use with Enter. </p>
<p>The computing world would be far different had Xerox had people with the forward looking vision of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg E.</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-1/#comment-98672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Windows never ran on an 8 bit CPU. The 8086 was a full 16 bit CPU. The 8088 was a 16 bit CPU on an 8 bit data bus. Winodws versions through 3.0 could run on the 808x. 3.1 and 3.11 dropped Real Mode support so they required a minimum 80286 CPU. 
 
Windows for Workgroups 3.11 dropped Standard Mode support and required a minimum 80386 CPU, even though Windows was still 16 bit. WFWG 3.11 could support 32bit disk and file access, but there was no benefit if the hardware could only support one or the other. 
 
I don&#039;t know if Windows For Workgroups 3.1 still had Standard Mode support. 
 
Windows 3.11 (with Standard Mode support)) had support for 32 disk access. But it was useless without the 32 bit file access because it still had to thunk down to 16 bit so there was no speed improvement. Of course that bit of 32 bit support only worked on a 80386 or higher. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows never ran on an 8 bit CPU. The 8086 was a full 16 bit CPU. The 8088 was a 16 bit CPU on an 8 bit data bus. Winodws versions through 3.0 could run on the 808x. 3.1 and 3.11 dropped Real Mode support so they required a minimum 80286 CPU. </p>
<p>Windows for Workgroups 3.11 dropped Standard Mode support and required a minimum 80386 CPU, even though Windows was still 16 bit. WFWG 3.11 could support 32bit disk and file access, but there was no benefit if the hardware could only support one or the other. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t know if Windows For Workgroups 3.1 still had Standard Mode support. </p>
<p>Windows 3.11 (with Standard Mode support)) had support for 32 disk access. But it was useless without the 32 bit file access because it still had to thunk down to 16 bit so there was no speed improvement. Of course that bit of 32 bit support only worked on a 80386 or higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg E.</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-12/#comment-98552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregg E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So is this guy the one to blame for the unchangeable anti-highlight color that&#039;s extremely hard to see in Windows Explorer in Vista and Windows 7? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is this guy the one to blame for the unchangeable anti-highlight color that&#039;s extremely hard to see in Windows Explorer in Vista and Windows 7?</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-12/#comment-91931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alfred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stumbled onto your web site, i think your website is awsome, keep writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled onto your web site, i think your website is awsome, keep writing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Barrett</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-12/#comment-85184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mac started a year earlier,..still in our days Microsoft has over 90% of market share..good job Billy, now donate some money to the poor please. 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.window-replacement-cost-estimator.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;window replacement cost estimator&lt;/a&gt; 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac started a year earlier,..still in our days Microsoft has over 90% of market share..good job Billy, now donate some money to the poor please. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.window-replacement-cost-estimator.com" rel="nofollow">window replacement cost estimator</a></p>
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		<title>By: ha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 15:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s &quot;we intelligent people.&quot; We is the subject. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s &quot;we intelligent people.&quot; We is the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Turbo Pascal</title>
		<link>http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/comment-page-11/#comment-84130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turbo Pascal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 15:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Turbo Pascal is still alive at &lt;a href=&quot;http://turbopascal.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://turbopascal.org/&lt;/a&gt; 
 
And Anders Hejlsberg, who initially developed this compiler now works for Microsoft! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Turbo Pascal is still alive at <a href="http://turbopascal.org/" rel="nofollow">http://turbopascal.org/</a> </p>
<p>And Anders Hejlsberg, who initially developed this compiler now works for Microsoft!</p>
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		<title>By: Freddyf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddyf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 21:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Frombam: &quot;What, exactly, does Microsoft have the monopoly on? Windows? What are you talking about?&quot;
Operating systems of course. Even Linux is having a hard time getting its foot in the door. The problem is when bad features are forced on users. For example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thebestsearchengines101.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I hate Google instant&lt;/a&gt; (don&#039;t you?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frombam: &#8220;What, exactly, does Microsoft have the monopoly on? Windows? What are you talking about?&#8221;<br />
Operating systems of course. Even Linux is having a hard time getting its foot in the door. The problem is when bad features are forced on users. For example, <a href="http://www.thebestsearchengines101.net" rel="nofollow">I hate Google instant</a> (don&#8217;t you?)</p>
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