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		<title>The T-Grid: Nokia&#8217;s 5800 XpressMusic vs. the iPhone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harry McCracken</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give Steve Jobs this: When Apple frets publicly about other companies ripping off the iPhone, it has a point. The iPhone is quickly becoming what the Mac was more than twenty years ago, only more so: A device that sets the style, technological, and functional agenda for an entire industry. And now Nokia is leaping [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=technologizer.com&#038;blog=3849727&#038;post=2611&#038;subd=technologizer&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2288" style="margin-left:8px;margin-right:8px;" title="tgrid" src="http://technologizer.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/tgrid.png" alt="" width="278" height="80" />Give Steve Jobs this: When Apple frets publicly about other companies ripping off the iPhone, it has a point. The iPhone is quickly becoming what the Mac was more than twenty years ago, only more so: A device that sets the style, technological, and functional agenda for an entire industry. And now Nokia is leaping into the game with the <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/10/02/nokia_answers_iphones_blows_with_its_first_touchscreen_phone.html">5800 XpressMusic, its first iPhone-like touchscreen phone</a>.</p>
<p>The 5800 XpressMusic certainly <em>looks</em> like an iPhone, and it matches its features in many areas (though not all of them: It&#8217;s got a less sophisticated, single-touch screen, albeit one with more pixels). And it&#8217;s got some of the features <a href="http://technologizer.com/2008/09/30/iphone-satisfaction/">which some people wish the iPhone had</a>, including a fancier camera that has a flash and can record video, voice dialing, and even an FM radio.</p>
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<p>The 5800 won&#8217;t be available in the U.S. until next year, and we don&#8217;t know anything about pricing or the service side of things yet. And the single best thing about the iPhone by far is the software experience; I need hands-on experience with the 5800 to judge how it compares (Gizmodo, which got some, <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5058030/nokia-5800-xpressmusic-hands+on-with-nokias-first-s60-touch-phone">doesn&#8217;t seem to think the 5800 is that great on this front)</a>. But it&#8217;s still worth comparing the two devices in a T-Grid, in the proud tradition of the <a href="http://technologizer.com/2008/09/23/tmobile-g1-vs-iphone/">one we did of the iPhone and T-Mobile&#8217;s G1</a>.</p>
<p>As usual, this is our first pass, subject to expansion and revision:</p>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">The phones</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;"><strong>Nokia 5800 XpressMusic<br />
</strong></div>
<div style="text-align:center;padding:12px;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-2613" title="nokiaphones1" src="http://technologizer.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/nokiaphones1.png" alt="" width="58" height="120" /></div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;"><strong>Apple iPhone 3G<br />
</strong></div>
<div style="padding:12px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2293" title="iphone4" src="http://technologizer.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/iphone4.png" alt="" width="59" height="112" /></div>
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</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Platform</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Symbian S60 5th Edition</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Apple&#8217;s proprietary OS X</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Availability</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">By end of the year in Asia, Middle East, Rusia, and Spain; U.S. in 2008</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Now, although supply is occasionally spotty</div>
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<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Price</div>
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<div style="padding:12px;">TBD in U.S. (279 Euros&#8211;$387&#8211;unsubsidized in Europe)</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">$199 for 8GB model or $299 for 16GB model with two-year contract</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Data plan</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">TBD in U.S.</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">$30 a month for unlimited data; $5 a month extra for 200 text messages</div>
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<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Locked?</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">TBD in U.S.</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yup, to AT&amp;T</div>
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<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Colors</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Red, blue, and black</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Black (8GB and 16GB); white (16GB only)</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Size and weight</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">4.37” by 2.03” by 0.61”; 3.84 oz.</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">4.5&#8243; by 2.4&#8243;by 0.48&#8243;; 4.7 oz.</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Screen size and resolution</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">3.2&#8243;; 640 by 360</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">3.5&#8243;; 480 by 320</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Input</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Single-touch touchscreen (fingertip or stylus) with on-screen keyboard; handwriting recognition; T9</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Multi-touch touchscreen with on-screen keyboard</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Accelerometer</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes<strong><br />
</strong></div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes<strong><br />
</strong></div>
</td>
</tr>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Headphone jack</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Standard 3.5mm</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Standard 3.5mm</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Voice dialing</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">No</div>
</td>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Voice recording</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">No</div>
</td>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Memory</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">MicroSD slot with bundled 8GB card</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">8GB and 16GB models available; no memory expansion</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Camera(s)</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">3.2 megapixels; flash; 3x digital zoom; video capable; additional camera on front for video calling</div>
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<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">2 megapixels; no flash; no digital zoom; no video; no second camera</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Voice</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Quad-band GSM<span style="text-decoration:line-through;"><br />
</span></div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Quad-band GSM</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Data</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">3G (UMTS with HSDPA, if you want to get technical)</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Ditto</div>
</td>
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<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Use as tethered modem?</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Not sure!</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Violates AT&amp;T&#8217;s terms of service; tethering plan is rumored</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Wi-Fi and GPS</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Done and done</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Ditto and ditto</div>
</td>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Battery</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">8.8 hours talk time; 406 hours standby; removable</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">5 hours talk time; 300 hours standby; not removable</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Web browser</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">WebKit based browser; supports Flash Lite</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">WebKit-based Safari; no Flash</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Web searching</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, via Nokia Mobile Search (I&#8217;m not sure what that is)</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, via Google or Yahoo</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">E-Mail</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">IMAP, POP</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">MobileMe, GMail, Yahoo Mail, AOL; other services supported through IMAP</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Calendar</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, with to-do list</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, but no to-do list</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Microsoft Exchange support</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Instant messaging</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Only through third-party apps</div>
</td>
</tr>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Maps</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes (Nokia Maps)</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
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<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="text-align:left;padding:12px;">Turn-by-turn navigation</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Not sure, but &#8220;car navigation&#8221; is mentioned in specs</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">No, but may be coming from third party developer(s)</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Music</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Nokia NSeries music player; Comes With Music unlimited-download version available in 2009 in some areas; supports MP3, SpMidi, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, and WMA formats</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">iPod player and iTunes Store; supports MP3, AAC (with or without Fairplay), WAV, Apple Lossless, AIFF, VBR formats</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Video</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">RealPlayer; supports MPEG4-SP, MPEG4-AVC, MPEG-SP, and WMV9 formats</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">iPod player, YouTube; movies through iTunes Store; supports H.264 and MPEG4 formats</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">FM radio</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Nope</div>
</td>
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<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Photos</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Wireless synching</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Not sure</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, through MobileMe</div>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Desktop synching</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, through Nokia OVI Suite</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, through iTunes</div>
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<th scope="row">
<div style="padding:12px;">Application store</div>
</th>
<td bgcolor="#ffffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Not sure, but there&#8217;s a Downloads feature</div>
</td>
<td bgcolor="#ccffcc">
<div style="padding:12px;">Yes, the iTunes App Store</div>
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