By Harry McCracken | Friday, July 17, 2009 at 8:29 am
Erica Ogg of CNET has a good story up on upcoming notebooks based on ultra low-voltage chips. They’re thin and light, with good battery life, and will run between $600 and $1000. Sounds pretty appealing–I could see myself going for one as my next notebook. I remain amused, however, by the degree to which the industry keeps saying that the netbooks it’s selling by the million are lousy machines that it needs to rescue consumers from.
From another Cnet story:
“Now, if you want a thin and light notebook, you don’t have to just pick a Netbook. You can pick an affordable notebook that has more functionality,” [Intel CEO Paul] Otellini said.
[snip]
“When we first released our ultraportable (ultra-thin) a lot of people looked at it and said, ‘oh it’s Netbook,'” said Kelt Reeves, president of enthusiast PC maker Falcon Northwest. “No, it’s close to a Netbook in size but it’s much, much more capable,” Reeves said, addressing user misconceptions.
Windows 7 may not go very far in correcting all the confusion. “Windows 7 runs well even on a $199 Netbook,” said Ashok Kumar, an analyst at investment bank Collins Stewart. Kumar said Intel may continue to have trouble managing consumer perceptions of Netbooks and ultra-thins.
Again and again, we’re told that consumers are buying netbooks because they’re confused, not because they make sense for some folks. And the fact that Windows 7 runs well on netbooks is apparently…a problem. Bad Microsoft. Bad, bad Microsoft.
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July 17th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I bought a more powerful desktop and a netbook with the money from selling my old laptop. I only miss the laptops on business trips. I could be a little more productive on a ‘real’ notebook.
I can also use my netbook on my lap. That makes it several times more capable than my last one!
July 17th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Aren’t you confusing “like” with “buy”? People don’t generally buy cheaper computers because they prefer them, but because they can afford them. It seems a lot of netbook customers are disappointed by machines they expected would be closer in performance to “real” notebooks.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134652/Netbooks_disappoint_consumers_says_survey
July 17th, 2009 at 9:13 am
@Harry: “The notebooks the PC industry wants to replace netbooks cost more and have higher profit margins. Coincidence?”
Not “coincidence,” but the OTHER “C” word: Capitalism.
You got somethin’ against that? š
July 17th, 2009 at 9:19 am
There are definitely folks who buy a netbook only because they can’t afford anything better, or who buy one and discover they don’t much like it. But there are also people who know what they’re doing, buy netbooks, and are quite pleased with them. (Like me, for instance–and the majority of other people I know who own netbooks.)
When the industry starts talking about “educating” consumers, it’s often a codeword for “convincing them to buy the stuff we think they should like, even though it’s not catching on.” And I’ve never seen a product category as popular as netbooks that’s been the subject of so much negativity from the companies behind it.
–Harry
July 17th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Harry: I’m sure the industry would love for more people to buy more-expensive computers š But I also think there’s genuine concern about a lack of satisfaction: I’ve read in several places that the return rate for netbooks is very high, for all the reasons the recent NPD study cited. So the industry does seem to have a legitimate desire to “educate” consumers about what a netbook is and isn’t. (Although, as you’ve said, what “is” a netbook is changing; it’s no longer necessarily a $250 computer with a tiny screen and keyboard.)
As for satisfaction, I think there are two main types of netbook buyers: (1) people who buy them because they’re cheapāthese likely make up a disproportionately large chunk of the “unsatisfied” groupāand (2) tech-savvy people, like you and me, who buy them fully aware of their limitations but still want them for their portability (and, sure, low price).
July 17th, 2009 at 9:46 am
If the netbooks are running Windows, then they are lousy machines. I’d buy one in minute from a retail outlet if they ran Linux.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I used to work in a well known computer superstore here in the UK. Many people would come in a pull the cheapest machine off the shelf and go and pay. I would always stop them and ask them if they had any questions, and if they said yes, I’d gently probe them to find out what they wanted to use it for. “Word and letters” , “a few games for the kids” (think The Sims), “The Internet” , “iPods”, “School work” for common answers.
I’d then proceed to tell them if what they had in their arms was going to do the job. iPod? You’ll want something that can run iTunes! The Sims? maybe spend Ā£100 extra on something that has a dedicate GFX card. Internet? Wireless I take it? Do you have a wireless router? Word? Well you have to pay extra for that. Homework? Your kids will probably want Office with Powerpoint, do you need that too?
So I can quite imagine people buying a Netbook because of the low price, and then realising it can’t do certain things. Especially those with <10GB hard disks and 9 inch screens.
Netbooks are not suppose to be primary machines, do the general public realise this?
July 17th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
People are far too hung up on specs and synthetic benchmarks, ignoring how normal people actually use netbooks. My 8.9″ Aspire One is a perfectly adequate portable PC. OK, it’s performing like a 3-4 year old PC but this is more than enough for everyday XP use.
For Ā£220, I’ve got a near-silent portable laptop that does everything I need. I got burned with a more expensive laptop in the past – not again….
July 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Believe it or not, I do almost the same exact stuff on my new EEE PC as my old-school DV8315NR, a big sucker with a 17″ screen (the stupid thing was that screen being driven by an old ATi Mobility chipset). I thought mobile gaming would be cool, but I never really did it. Just note-taking in school, web-browsing, and the occasional bout of gaming (which lasted about 45 mins. at max). The only thing I miss about that laptop is the num pad.
July 18th, 2009 at 8:29 am
@Harry: “When the industry starts talking about āeducatingā consumers, itās often a codeword for āconvincing them to buy the stuff we think they should like, even though itās not catching on.ā And Iāve never seen a product category as popular as netbooks thatās been the subject of so much negativity from the companies behind it.”
LOL! True enough, but “often” is not “always.” I have to agree with others that netbooks ARE being bought on price alone, without regard to their capabilities or limitations, and that IS a legitimate reason to “educate” consumers.
The first computer I bought didn’t do a darned thing I thought it would do (I think I watched too many Star Trek episodes: “Computer?”). The first computer I SOLD got returned for the same reason (even after my attempts to educate the buyer).
April 28th, 2010 at 1:46 am
I just posted my comments on the article: Are Netbooks (Finally) Doomed? https://www.technologizer.com/2010/04/27/are-netbooks-finally-doomed/ and I feel those comments fit this article as well.
Here it is below:
I have never gotten a netbook yet, but its not because I think they are dying out. I just havenāt had the extra cash (not working atm). About 6 years ago I decided to do away with desktops because I needed something that I could take with me on vacation or to my parents house, so I went with a 17ā³ HP notebook that was toted as a desktop replacement. And you know what, it was. It did everything my desktop at the time did, but faster. And I could take it with me.
Iām now on my 2nd laptop (still HP and still 17ā³) and I am still happy with it. I take it when I go on vacation, or when I know I need it somewhere like in-laws, parents, or roller derby (Iām a ref for the LA Derby Dolls). But I donāt carry it with me everywhere. When I was in college, I didnāt take it because its just too big/heavy to carry all the time. That is when I started to take an interest in netbooks.
To me, the netbooks fill a niche. They are small enough to just grab and go, something you canāt do with a desktop, and may not want to do with a full size notebook. Sure, some say they donāt need a netbook because they have a iphone or black berry, but you can only do so much on those, and do you really want to do a lot of typing on such a small keypad or stare a small screen for a long time? I know I donāt, and I love my iphone.
So, once I start working and have some extra cash laying around, I know that I will be picking up a netbook. To me I can carry it with me all the time when I need it. Plus, I ride a Harley and the small size will fit in my bags a lot better than my 17ā³ notebook; which barely fits in my full size T-Bag that sits on my sissy bar. I want something that I can carry in my smaller bag, or put in my shoulder bag that I sometimes use when I ride.
So I am with others that agree that the netbooks are not doomed. They, like the new ipads, are not for everyone, but there is a niche marker for them and that will keep them alive for some time.
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