By Ed Oswald | Thursday, April 8, 2010 at 11:38 am
Easily the line of the day from today’s presentation. Following a question from gdgt’s Ryan Block on why the iPhone will not allow the running of unsigned apps like both Palm and Android already offer, Steve Jobs comes back calling out Android’s “porn store: “There’s a porn store for Android … your kids can download them … that’s a place where we just don’t want to go, so we’re not going to go there.” That is NOT going to make Google very happy…
[…] Einfach die Linie des Tages aus der heutigen Präsentation. Nach einer Frage aus GDGT Ryan Block auf, warum das iPhone wird nicht zulassen, dass die AusfĂĽhrung von unsignierten Anwendungen wie sowohl Palm und Android bieten bereits, Steve Jobs kommt zurĂĽck und rief Android's "porn Store:" Es ist ein Porno-Shop fĂĽr Android … Ihre Kinder zum Download [. . . ] URL des Original-Artikel https://www.technologizer.com/2010/04/08/jobs-calls-out-android-over-porn/ […]
[…] Jobs Calls Out Android Over Porn […]
[…] Easily the line of the day from today’s presentation. Following a question from gdgt’s Ryan Block on why the iPhone will not allow the running of unsigned apps like both Palm and Android already offer, Steve Jobs comes back calling out Android’s “porn store: “There’s a porn store for Android … your kids can download them … that’s a place where we just don’t want to go, so we’re not going to go there.” That is NOT going to make Google very happy… via technologizer.com […]
April 8th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Yeah, I wish a reporter would grow a pair& ask Jobs how well the whole “walled garden” worked for AOL in the long run.
April 8th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Ironic technologizer layout:
“Jobs Calls Out Android Over Porn See all: Quickies”
@Mark: AOL’s biggest failing was that dial up died– and good riddance. Sure, it was kind of dumb and goofy– they still had lots of customers.
As for the signed app question– it seems a bit disingenuous. After, can’t you take Safari for iPod to whatever site you might want, wholesome or not?
Still, any jab at those Android jerks is appreciated.
April 8th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
There’s plenty of ways to get porn on an iPhone and iPad (ummm, so I hear). 🙂
April 8th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
What a strange thing to say given that porn sells huge. Except for an old lady who would see this as a good thing? I mean would that be a selling feature for a bluray player for example to not allow porn to be viewed on it. And it’s a bit pointless to boot since you can just view porn on the web like everyone else on the iPad.
April 8th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Is Jobs really such a puritan? Thats not cool.
April 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I’m glad to see that somebody is thinking of the children! I’ve often begged, “Won’t somebody think of the children?!” It’s good to see Steve take on this role.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:46 am
isnt that supposed to be the parents job, if i take my kids to mcdonalds, is it there job to make sure they get a healthy meal? what happened to parents being parents, and what kind of dumbass thinks a company purposely limiting YOUR (actually if its a iphone its not yours you just borrow it from apple) phone or other hardware, can apple idiots really be that dumb.
OMG im so stupid i need apple to keep me "safe" on the interweb.
give me an FN break.
April 8th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
All Jobs had to say was “Android has malware, we do not.”
> “walled garden”
iPhone is not a walled garden. Only App Store has walls, and they’re there to keep malware out, which they have done successfully. The majority of iPhone users have no idea what malware is, yet there is no malware on iPhone. On Android, the majority of users are computer nerds who know what malware is, yet they have malware on Android.
If the walls on App Store are there to keep competition out, then they’re doing a really bad job of it. There are many apps that compete directly with Apple and carrier products and services. You can in-app purchase books from Kindle and Marvel and others, you can listen to music from Pandora and others, you can make calls on Skype and others, you can send text messages through AIM and others, you can sync contacts, calendars, and email with a wide variety of services, even Exchange.
Further, App Store is entirely optional: you can install W3C standard apps on the phone itself from any server in the world. The apps are installed locally and run when offline, they appear side-by-side with App Store apps on the user’s home screen. They’re written to an open API, run in an open source environment, have GPU-accelerated graphics, and gain new capabilities as fast as W3C adds them.
People like to talk about Google Voice. Google Voice is running on iPhone today. You download it direct from Google. There is no wall that can keep Google Voice off iPhone.
Even iTunes Store, Apple’s baby, is entirely optional: you can install ISO audio video from any source through iTunes on Mac/PC. Some people buy CD and DVD and load them into iTunes themselves and that is all they have running on their iPhone. Since iPhone uses ISO standards and iTunes publishes its database as universally-readable XML, all that same media can sync to their non-Apple devices as well.
As noted in this article, if you want porn on your iPhone, you can get it without App Store.
So those are some leaky walls! Malware out, everything else in.
If this same kind of App Store approval process had been added to Windows Vista, there would be no malware on Windows Vista and 7 today, and likely the majority of XP systems would have been upgraded, just to get this feature. Where I’m consulting right now, they rebuild a dozen Windows machines a week due to malware. They would upgrade them from XP in a blink if there was a malware-free Windows. Nobody else but Apple has implemented a solution to the malware problem. Everybody else just passes the buck until it falls on the user.
This year, Microsoft is adding Apple-style approvals to their mobile platform. I think if you revisit your walled garden point in 3-5 years you’ll be hard pressed to find a consumer platform that doesn’t have an Apple-style approval process on native apps. The reason is that it’s hard to argue with success.
> That is NOT going to make Google very happy
So what? Not only does Google make much more money off Apple than Apple makes off Google, Apple is the bigger company.
April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
I personally think that Apple should send all the perverts over to the Android platform. The iPad can easily use the Safari browser to get to porn sites, so I don’t see why it’s necessary for Apple to allow porn apps if they choose not to. Viewing porn is a fine and natural pasttime, but if Apple wants to run a PG type App Store, then they should do just that. If Android chooses to become the platform of perverts then good for them. There doesn’t seem to be any gatekeeper and I suppose if Android wants to support child porn apps, then it would perfectly fine to do so. Just keep that stuff out of the Apple App Store.
January 28th, 2011 at 3:50 am
who said anything about child porn, child porn is illegal, adult porn is not, who in their right mind thinks a corporation that is legally binded to make decisions based on profit thinks they have their best interest in mind…. ONLY an APPLE jackass!!!
April 10th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Hi. I’m from the Developer Relations group at Palm. I would like to clarify something. The webOS does *not* allow unsigned apps by default. All apps available in the App Catalog have been reviewed and signed by Palm. There are alternate distribution mechanisms, it’s true, but this requires the end user to turn their phone into ‘developer mode’ by typing in a special code. The user must make a conscious decision to install apps that have not been signed, and accept whatever results.
By default, the webOS does *not* allow unsigned apps.
Thanks!
Josh
January 28th, 2011 at 3:53 am
wow WebOS and android actually put faith in their users and let them do what they choose with the products they buy? thats unheard of….what the hell im going back to apple, I dont like having to make choices and decisions for my self. lol
April 13th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
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June 10th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
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July 23rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
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