By Harry McCracken | Monday, November 22, 2010 at 5:37 am
Publisher: Quarterdeck
Debuted: July 1985, five months before Windows 1.0
Why it was better than Windows, or at least different: DESQview was based on DESQ, an earlier Quarterdeck product, and was initially marketed as a superior alternative to IBM’s TopView. Resolutely text-based and keyboard-oriented, it allowed for efficient multitasking of DOS apps and came with QEMM, a famously well-done memory manager that was also available separately. (This was back when PC users had to obsess over the 640KB memory limit and devote energy to figuring out how to override it.) People who liked DESQview really liked it; well into the 1990s, there were folks who swore off Windows and saw it as a way to avoid the whole graphical user interface revolution.
What the critics said: “…a powerful, useful, clever windowing system.” Marc Stern, InfoWorld
The publisher called it: “…the recognized pioneer in DOS multitasking.”
What happened: DESQview sold only a tiny fraction as many copies as Windows did, but it was one of the few packages here that qualified, for a while, as a success. At some point, though, sticking with DOS apps and running them in DESQview went from a perfectly understandable decision to a weird affectation. (In 1990, Quarterdeck had released DESQview/X, an ambitious, all-new environment that let users use Unix-based X Window apps as well DOS and Windows apps; it was too much too late, and never threatened Windows.) By the time Quarterdeck sold out to Symantec in 1998, the DESQview era such as it was had ended. And Quarterdeck, having failed to beat Windows, had morphed into a developer of utilities for it.
Publisher: Tandy (that’s Radio Shack to you and me)
Debuted: 1986
Why it was better than Windows, or at least different: In the 1980s, many home PCs were pretty darn rudimentary, even by then-current standards. And a lot of them were sold by Radio Shack, then a major manufacturer of cheap IBM PC clones. At a time when many PC users deemed Windows to be a resource hog they didn’t need, the company put its DeskMate text-based windowing environment on machines such as the Tandy 1000, where it was sometimes stored in ROM. DeskMate never got very pretty, but it did become the center of its own little parallel universe, with multiple upgrades (it reached version 3) and special versions of such popular programs as Lotus 1-2-3 and Quicken. It was also eventually sold in shrinkwrapped form for non-Tandy PCs, and there was an edition for Radio Shack’s TRS-80 Color Computer.
What the critics said: “For many users, especially those with little computer experience or less powerful hardware (it requires just an 8088 and a single floppy disk) Deskmate has inexpensive and has a lot to offer.” Michael J. Miller, InfoWorld
The publisher called it: “The Friendly Face in the PC Crowd(tm)”
What happened: After Windows 3.0 shipped in 1990, DOS-only PCs went into a gradual but inexorable death spiral; the arrival of Windows 1995 finished them off. At the same time, Radio Shack gradually got out of the computer business. Its 1994 catalog was the last to mention DeskMate, and the 1995 one was the last to include computers at all. The company sold its PC business to AST, leaving DeskMate as an orphan.
Publisher: Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks)
Debuted: 1990, the same year as Windows 3.0
Why it was better than Windows, or at least different: GEOS (later known as GeoWorks Ensemble) was a graphical environment that looked and behaved much like Windows, with an interface based on Motif, a widely-used environment from the Unix world. But it was much meaner and leaner than anything from Redmond it ran just fine on supposedly obsolete hardware such as an IBM PC XT. GEOS tended to get excellent reviews. And even though it arrived at the same time that Windows 3.0 was selling like gangbusters, plenty of folks thought that the market would have room for both environments.
What the critics said: “If you can only swing a 286, GeoWorks is faster and slicker than trying to run Windows.” Sebastian Rupley, InfoWorld
The publisher called it: “…the fastest ramping graphical environment ever.”
What happened: Windows 3.0 and beyond crushed GEOS much like Godzilla crushed Bambi. But for a failed piece of software, GEOS has had a lively existence. It served as the platform for AOL’s DOS version the whole thing fit on one floppy and a pen-based version powered HP’s 1995 OmniGo palmtop; it was also bundled with Sony and NEC CD-ROM drives. Ownership of the software changed hands several times, and it’s still around as Breadbox Ensemble. Somewhere out there, people are still using it which is more than you can say about DeskMate or Visi On.
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November 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
No Mention of IBM's OS/2 either
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:24 am
I do briefly explain why I don't cover OS/2–it was, as the name suggests, an OS. This particular story is about environments that sat on top of DOS rather than replacing it.
But one of these days, I really ought to give the OS/2 saga a story of its own…
–Harry
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Good points. The ST line definitely found something of a niche in the music / MIDI industry in particular. My brother-in-law developed Atari software with some buddies and I went to a few Atari conventions with him. It was clear even back in the 80s and early 90s though the ST/TT line was decidedly a fringe system. The conventions, even those where Atari itself had a presence, had the feel of a gun or comic show. The ST was certainly way ahead of its time – the games were vastly superior to the PC games of the era – and its multimedia capabilities were amazing, but there was no oomph in the Atari organization. The ST/TT and Jaguar – I recall my brother-in-law pinning his hopes on the Jag as the Tramiel-era Atari's last gasp – really were just subsumed by inferior products. Whatever business acumen Jack Tramiel had used to build Commodore into a computing giant he seemed to have largely misplaced it with Atari. That or it simply turned out to be impossible to compete with the PC juggernaut. It probably took the PC at least 10 years to catch up graphically to where the Atari and Amiga line had been.
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
Breadbox Ensemble would be weird enough in 2010 even as a free download–but they want $100 for it!
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:21 am
I guess OS/2 isn't completely dead but i agree that its odd to not mention it as its at the very least dead as a windows competitor. I always preferred the windows environment, but that desqview and os/2 could do actual multitasking made them way more useful no matter how ugly they were. try running multinode bbs's on windows 3.xx. Anything other than the active window just went to sleep and wouldnt answer incoming calls. fail.
also its worth pointing out that deskmate in all its blue and yellow ugliness was the first GUI that i can remember that had "live" icons for minimized windows. seeing useful information in an app when its minimized is all the rage these days but deskmate had it 20 years ago.
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Qemm was good and cheap even in europe despite the 'then' pricing issues, and regional features issues. – i had a license for that, Desqview on the other hand was expensive which i remember i had to buy in the us as well as nobody i knew sold it. It seemed a luxury.
Running one program at time back then did not seem that bad on 386 without a coprocessor
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am
I used Geos on my C64 and it was great. I still think that if it had a HDD and I didn't have to constantly swap 5.25" disks, I would have been on my C64 for more years than I was. As it happened I eventually bought a 386 with DeskMate. Tandy was developing relationships with top software developers to create DeskMate branded versions of their software and I bought into the idea (DeskMate had home automation and other features that fed into the hardware hacker mentality that once represented their core customer base). When Tandy dropped DeskMate, I demanded and received a Tandy branded version of Windows 3.0; I still have the diskettes as a curiosity.
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
This kind of article is bound to famously miss AmigaOS. Introduced 5 months before Windows (July 1985), it was technologically a decade or so ahead of all of the above as its windowing system wasn't a bolted on afterthought but fully graphical and hardware accelerated from the ground up (running on cheaper and faster hardware than IBM or clones of the time, 4096 colours, 4 channel audio vs. PC beep etc.). It had a messaging based microkernel sporting fully preemptive multitasking (with a GUI that always had priority so didn't freeze when you formatted a floppy in the background, for example), running all that in 256 KB of memory. It had many other technical advantages one could discuss at length, and both Apple and Microsoft were utterly scared of it until it turned out Commodore management would always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, so why is it routinely omitted from history?
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:57 am
I did a whole epic story on the Amiga to celebrate its 25th a few months ago:
https://www.technologizer.com/2010/07/23/amiga/
November 22nd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
You're absolutely right. AmigaOS was way ahead of Windows. It was only in 1995 with Windows 95 that Windows had something that could compete with AmigaOS. It was only then that I was willing to invest in a PC. Before my Amiga 512 I had a Commodore 64.
Windows was good for employability, but it took the fun out of computing. Mac OS X and linux brought it back.
November 23rd, 2010 at 5:03 am
But that's an OS. This article is about windowing systems that run on top of DOS. It doesn't mention MacOS, RISCOS etc for the same reason.
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 am
What's with this repeated comment about "two floppy drives" being something special? All but the cheapest PC-type computers had dual floppy drives (usually one used for software, the other for data). The only exception were PCs with a hard drive instead, which was a perfectly suitable substitute for that second floppy if you wanted to use any of the software being described here. It was the fact that most of these (effectively) required a hard drive (not a second floppy) to be useful that kept them out of reach of some users… but then, so did Windows 1.0.
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:53 am
Damn, I love these reports about the past. Weird how fast computers evolved. We are not even talking about 15 years since Win 95 came out – the first usable multitasking operating system.
I used to have DESQview also and it was great on my Unisys 386
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:55 am
What about BeOS?
November 22nd, 2010 at 10:56 am
The section on VisiOn missed its major problem. VisiOn was designed to only run on a genuine IBM XT with CGA. Can you guess what happened a few months later when the IBM AT was released? That's right, VisiOn didn't run. VisiOn's demise was inevitable.
November 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 am
Nice to find out that Microsoft wasn't the only one; everyone at the time was building a GUI, busy copying Xerox and Apple. And maybe some of them missed to catch a fortune just by an inch (the one that Ballmer, Gates and Allen claimed).
Being a prime DOS vendor did help MS with marketing (providing a cash to market Windows) and better ability to reach users, so I still think that a deal with IBM was a factor that put them on top (and they were smart to use the advantage).
November 22nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
You know what would be fun… run a few of the DOS top OS's on the iPad. They got DOSPad to work on the ipad and iphone 3gs /4. I'm thinking of GEOs specifically. http://www.perivision.net/wordpress/tag/dos-emula…
November 22nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
GEOS existed before 1990. I remember using it on my Commodore 64 and that must have been 1987 or 1988.
November 22nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
GEOS had a real chance initially – I remember using it and liking it more than Windows 3.0. However, with Windows I could write programs! Microsoft went out of their way to get devs going. GEOS kept promising a dev kit, then … nothing. And when they finally released any addon, it was – a clock?!? In the meantime Windows has software from 3rd parties coming out the wazoo.
A fixed environment that effectively never changes vs. one with an active and growing ecosystem is never going to win out.
November 22nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
I've got the dev kit — I used to code for it. It was a nightmare. Code was written in an enhanced C called GOC that used a slightly preprocessor to add object-oriented features, and was then compiled using Borland C and before being fed to a custom linker. The debugger was hideous and required a serial connection to another PC to work. The APIs themselves had a learning curve like a cliff; aside from the weird object system, the software-based virtual memory system meant that any storage was referred to by handle, which had to be locked/unlocked/dirtied to tell the OS to load and write back the data. It was all layers upon layers upon layers, and I never did get them all sorted out.
That said, it was incredibly capable. Threads, outline fonts, vector graphics, late bound objects, arbitrary component-based document embedding — the standard GEOS word processor, vector graphics, bitmaps graphics and spreadsheet apps were all just front ends onto the universal document system. You could paint in the word processor, embed spreadsheets into vector drawings, and so on, and the OS would seamlessly handle storing all this data, including undo, in a single document file.
Alas, it was all intrinsically tied to the x86 architecture; the clever tricks that made it work all relied on 16-bit segmented assembly. The 386 was the GEOS' death knell. Late on, they desperately tried rewriting it for ARM, but by then it was too late.
If anyone's interested, you can see my apps (including the source code) here: http://www.cowlark.com/geos-software/
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Ah, DeskMate. What a weird program. It actually existed for the TRS-80 Model 4, too, in a relatively capable form. Although like the C64/128 version of GEOS, that's clearly out of the scope defined for this article, just like Amiga OS, and my favorite dearly departed OS of years gone by, BeOS — the article did start out by saying that it was only considering programs that, like Windows all through its 16-bit days, ran on top of DOS.
(Speaking of TRS-80s, I'm still curious if the Harry McCracken of Technologizer is the same Harry McCracken of a few TRS-80 text adventures — one of which I still have the source code for, in a barely-holding-together copy of "Captain 80's Book of BASIC Adventures." Seriously.)
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Enough about failed rival, now we can make them succeed by donation. If you liked BeOS give $5 to it's recreation project (almost finished) at http://www.haiku-inc.org/donations.html
November 22nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
I don't even see a mention of WordPerfect's Office Menu companion product to its word processor that was popular back in the late 80s, early 90s. I used that interface at a hand rehab clinic while transcribing notes to pop out of WordPerfect using its macro/merge document language, knock out some entries in a Lotus 123 spreadsheet, export a graphic chart, then pop back into the WordPerfect document and import the graphic. I miss those days of just composing merge docs and macros to complete our patients' progress notes, initial evaluations, functional capacity evaluations, etc., cutting my time for transcribing each of them down by an order of magnitude. Hooray for boilerplate text!
November 22nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Aston-Tate also had a windowing environment packaged with its office suite. It was called Framework. Its descendant is still around. At the time Framework wasn't particularly open to third party applications, but there were a few plug-ins and such as I recall.
November 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Framework needs to be written about. I believe it was the package a wise boss of mine was referring to when he came up with the rule that you should never be impressed by a product if you've only seen it demoed by its inventor.
–Harry
November 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 pm
What the article fails to mention is that PC/GEOS from Berkley Software was the equivalent of
Windows 95 AND Microsoft Office in one package!!! Not only did you get the graphical interface,
but a word processor, spreadsheet, drawing program, etc., etc.!
The only thing it didn't include was a disk operating system, which is now available in several freeware versions which do the functions of MSDOS.
November 23rd, 2010 at 2:09 am
Some of the people commenting seem to have forgotten that the writer clearly specified that he was limiting himself to a discussion of environments that ran on top of DOS. That excludes AmigaOS and OS/2.
November 23rd, 2010 at 2:59 am
It's also worth mentioning that GEOS was later used as the OS for Nokia 9000 Communicator, a PC and phone hybrid in palmtop form factor sporting a variant of Intel's 80386 CPU. Gotta tell you, that thing is still a real beauty even today.
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 am
The author is attempting to portray Windows as a winner by comparing it against crappy DOS bolt-ons.
Happily avoiding all the GUI based alternative around at the time, with far better graphics and certainly better usability than a crummy PC could offer.
Take off your rose-tinted glasses. Microsoft is crap and always has been, and will be.
November 23rd, 2010 at 3:40 pm
So a company that survived them all you would define as a…. ? Its an article of winners and loosers. Not about good or bad OS.
November 23rd, 2010 at 4:34 am
Great article – lovely reminders to some that "didn't make it"!
November 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 am
This does miss the real story – which is why Windows survived when alternatives like CTOS didn't. CTOS had features in 1980 that Microsoft didn't get even close to till the mid 90's; true multi-tasking, virtualized IO, diskless OS, OS written almost entirely in a high level language (not C gobbledygook either), fully integrated networking, you plugged it in and it found the network and configured itself, and a fully WYSIWYG word processor that never lost so much as a keystroke. I suppose you could consider later versions of NT equivalent, even then the complexity of NT versus the simplicity of CTOS is almost laughable.
November 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 am
Prior to its formal public release, I spen many-many hours beta-testing the GOESO "Ensemble" package as it was being ported from the C64. Some folks will remember that immdediately prior to AOL using Windows, it used GEOS… Some companies were actually using GEOS as their O/S of choice. I remember being in awe of my XT actually being able to multitask [albeit slowly] as it wase "time-slicing" the minmal memory it had to do a game, do word processing, drawing a graphic one-line-at-a-time, and be on line with my 1200b modem. I was fortuitous enough to be one of the Georeps in in the online forums on AOL — and have very fond memories of that time. I *still* have/use my AOL email name: GWRepRay@aol.com
Ray Kopczynski
Albany, OR
November 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Lol… does it say "Multiple apps are –ruinning– at the same time" on the Visi On snapshot??? Maybe that's why it didn't make it to the next level… 😀
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Love these feature articles. I remember DESQview and how difficult it was to try and multitask efficiently on a 14-inch monitor. It's funny how primitive all of these environments look compared to what they were doing on the Amiga at the time.
November 25th, 2010 at 5:35 am
Windows is the Coelecanth; hopelessly primitive, but still swimming. The fact that they have survived without the enormous advantages UNIX-based OS's (LINUX, OSX) is a testament to the low demands and high inertia inherent in the Enterprise environment.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:16 am
What impressed me the most with Geos is that it had vector-based fonts throughout. You could scale them to any size, and they were still smooth. At the time, doing the same on Windows or the Mac required third-party plug-ins from Adobe (Adobe Type Manager).
Also, it allowed long filenames on DOS files, something that wouldn't arrive on Windows until 1995.
I think it failed mostly because there were no third-party apps.
November 28th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Considering that Windows has ~90% market share in PCs, there weren't really ANY competitors that "made it". Think of having one car company and >90% of consumers drive its auto's. Same thing.